I'll not be using mpv anymore when the next update comes out
People, don't be like this
@bart sudo zypper rm mpv
@bart excuse me, what the fuck?
@bart wow, inexcusable behavior.
Why is this even possible? Supporting standards is the way to go, not the other way around if Linux ever wants a user base in the Desktop world
@DylanVanAssche Funny thing is, he is using a XDG standard to figure out in what desktop the application is running so it can block out (ok, now just warn the user) GNOME
@bart wm4 is an idiot dickhead, but he's right about GNOME.
@sir In this case that doesn't really matter. You can have any opinion you want, you just don't have to be a dick about it. What wm4 here is doing is being a dick about it. Luckily later on he changed that specific block of code to only warn the user that MPV might not work correctly on those systems, but only after backlash
@bart I don't give GNOME any credit whatsoever, they're an active force for evil on Linux and I don't think they deserve being nice to
@sir Ah yeah you probably fight with them about Wayland extensions since you're developing wlroots. I can imagine you aren't happy with them. However, it's still not right to be such a dick about everything, as much as you might dislike something or someone
@bart GNOME is the Microsoft of Linux. If being nice doesn't work, then what other options do we have? They do not deserve our kindness.
@bart basically, you're telling people to be taken advantage of.
@sir @bart I'm just thinking from a community aspect really. Being rude tends to discourage people from contributing, even if they were not in the group you were intending to be rude to. As well, generally, being rude tends to take away from a point, rather than adding to it. Personally. I would rather calmly, rationally and politely explain my position in clear terms. Even if our position is rejected, we have a better chance for change this way.
@sir @bart When we start getting to that point, maybe its a good time to take a step back and focus on what really matters. Open source contributor is mostly a thankless job, sometimes we need to stop and take care of #1. Everything is going to hell, but we needn't ride along. We don't need to be an apologist or give up our ideals to treat others with compassion.
The real enemy is the proprietary anyway, this infighting doesn't help us at all.
@sir @bart You only feel so as Gnome is in the unfortunate position of being closely tied to XDG, making the standards and you seem not to like the outcome for whatever reason. The last time I talked with you, I thought you were just a really bad person but reading your blind hate towards gnome here, you have way more serious problems. To add something good, thank you for wlroots.
@bart but why? The hell are these changes?
@bart wm4 is a enemy of the whole of FLOSS desktop community.
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